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post Sep 11 2006, 06:38 PM
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This question just popped up on Attack of the show and I think they made some pretty key points.
Im not trying to be a Fanboy and be all OMFG SONY SUCKS. Im just restating what they said.
1.Ps3 is having shipping delays/shortages.
2.They are having Disc reading problems.
3.The controller will not rumble and is the same as ps2 except wireless.
4.There are no really great games that people are looking forward to playing for paying 600$ for a system.
5.The hype of Wii is overpowering ps3's hype and excitment.

Then they came up with this poll.
Is ps3 Doomed?
yes
no

So Idk Like I have been saying I really dont think a system is worth 600$. I mean I can buy a snowboard, a wii, season snowboard tickets, and still have about 100$ left over when spending 600$. Thats not even paying for a game. Really all it has is blue Ray or w/e and it doesnt seem too impressive. TOP=ATOTS oppinion This last paragraph=my opinion. So yea most Sony fanboys of course are going to say its not doomed but really if you look at it from a neutral point of view it really is. Sony's Main audience is Teens 13-18 and some adults really I think this new systemis going to be mainly for adults with jobs who are willing to blow 600$ on a gaming system. Also basically the only games that look remotly good are P8 and MGS4 but deffinatly not worth 600$.

So yea go ahead bash me or w.e but its my opinion so fuck you xD


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WOW this is a very heated topic indeed. heres more of my 5 cents worth.



Nintendo..... Good company but there a little behind on the times. there to dependent on Mario and his creator. Everything that Nintendo has is because of him. I forget his name. Nintendo needs to come out w/ something new and more up to date. they need to get w/ the times. I am not saying stop making Mario or Zelda games or any of those. they were all good games. but there getting old and nintendo is to dependent on them. As for the Wii it is a neat system indeed but like everyone else has said it's not exactly next gen. some one was saying that the online aspect is new for nintendo. that I am affraid is not so. Gamecube was supposed to be online but have fun trying to get ahold of the adaptor or an online game. as for the discs it's about time Nintendo relaized that discs are better and for now can hold more data at one time for a price that is cheap. The gamecube was just an overall failure. it didn't do anything special except play GC games because of it using small discs. But Big things sometimes come in small packages and the Wii is the smallest. However it doesn't stack up to the next gen graphics. I agree Graphics are not everything. I would rather have an awesome game w/ not so awesome graphics then a shitty game w/ awesome graphics. and I would really like an awesome game w/ awesome graphics. which right now only the 360 and PS3 can offer. Nintendo Wii is just an upgraded gamecube w/ online, regular size discs, and the same old old old characters in a new game w/ the same type of game play. The only thing it really has going for it is it's new controller idea which might be a hit or might be a flop. I will how ever buy one just because I wanna try the Wiimote.



360 and PS3. truely next gen consoles. they both offer better graphics then ever really seen before and they both have awesome processors and w/e else. the only real difference is the blue ray. Yes blue ray is next gen yes it's expensive and yes it's new. but is it good? Ok so from the chart that I have seen which I dunno where it came from blue ray runs faster and blue ray has more disc space. but will a video game really use or need all that space. most likely not. PS3 has done a lot this time around to make there system truly Next gen. they have a blueray player which indeed sets them apart. they have an online thing like the 360 and the remote has changed. Yes the system is bigger but if you took the power pack of a 360 and shoved it into the case of the console how much bigger would it be? Besides blue ray I think the 360 and PS3 are bother great consoles and by far out do a nintendo wii. Now if the Wii came out when the xbox and ps2 came out then the Wii would have taken the market by storm and hurt Sony and Microsoft badly. but right now it's way to little way to late.



Games....... Each system is going to have a limited amount of release titles. some may be good some not so good. some might be sequels some may not. but it's not the release titles I would worry about. it's what titles are planned for that system afterwards. ok so the Wii has 20 release titles all great games then what? shitty games for a couple years until the sequels come out or w/e. hey guys lets release 20 awesome bad ass games to sucker people into buying our console then once they buy the console we've all ready made our money and can relax for a bit and give em shitty games and not do anything for the ones we have. the 360 I didn't really pay attention to there release titles but I am assuming some were good and some not so good. but they didn't bring out the big guns right away like halo 3. PS3 seems to be doing the same thing. they have some decent release titles but I think the great games will come later and they will come often. 360 and ps3's collections of games should be huge by this time next year. and remember the 360 has a year head start over PS3.



so to sum it up.



you can pay $2-3 hundred dollars for a dvd case that plays games that were last gen quality but use a cool Wiimote. or you can pay $400 for a 360 that has better graphics then an xbox better online place and all the other stuff xbox had and more games which just barely puts it over the next gen mark. or you can pay $600 for something that will play blueray discs and cost less then a blueray player. plays all your favorite games since PS1. has an online market place like the xbox. and can be used for so much more.



IMO I would say go get yourself a 360 or if you have the money up it up a notch w/ the PS3.



From what I have been told as far as graphics and stuff goes the 360 and the ps3 are basically the same. and this comes from people who make the games for those consoles.



Notice that THP8 is coming out on 360 and PS3, and is ported to the PS2 but yet isn't ported to the Wii. it's because the Wii still can't handle the graphics of the game even compared to the PS2. lmao.



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- Camo   Sony Doomed?   Sep 11 2006, 06:38 PM
- - FeRgY   QUOTE(Camo @ Sep 11 2006, 07:38 PM) 4039 ...   Sep 11 2006, 06:44 PM
- - Camo   Umm yea all of mine from G4 were fact and everythi...   Sep 11 2006, 07:00 PM
- - FeRgY   Links for what?   Sep 11 2006, 07:02 PM
|- - Shadow   QUOTE(FeRgY @ Sep 11 2006, 08:02 PM) 4045...   Sep 11 2006, 07:17 PM
- - Camo   QUOTE(Shadow @ Sep 12 2006, 12:17 AM) 404...   Sep 11 2006, 07:26 PM
|- - FeRgY   QUOTE(Camo @ Sep 11 2006, 08:26 PM) 4049 ...   Sep 11 2006, 07:27 PM
- - =BGOAT=Nicholas   In the way of who has the best next generation stu...   Sep 11 2006, 07:40 PM
|- - Shadow   QUOTE(=BGOAT=Nicholas @ Sep 11 2006, 08:4...   Sep 11 2006, 07:49 PM
|- - FeRgY   QUOTE(Shadow @ Sep 11 2006, 08:49 PM) 405...   Sep 11 2006, 07:51 PM
- - Requiem   QUOTE(Camo @ Sep 11 2006, 04:38 PM) 4039 ...   Sep 11 2006, 07:58 PM
- - ROOK Master wiz   I am so ruiting for the Wii to come out on top bec...   Sep 11 2006, 07:59 PM
|- - Shadow   ya niggaz are broke!   Sep 11 2006, 08:03 PM
|- - Logan   QUOTE(ROOK Master wiz @ Sep 11 2006, 08:5...   Sep 12 2006, 06:38 PM
- - Camo   QUOTE(ROOK Master wiz @ Sep 12 2006, 12:5...   Sep 11 2006, 08:15 PM
|- - FeRgY   QUOTE(Camo @ Sep 11 2006, 09:15 PM) 4061 ...   Sep 11 2006, 08:21 PM
- - lol_Doughnut   QUOTE(FeRgY @ Sep 11 2006, 06:51 PM) 4056...   Sep 11 2006, 08:19 PM
- - Camo   QUOTE(FeRgY @ Sep 12 2006, 01:21 AM) 4064...   Sep 11 2006, 08:26 PM
|- - FeRgY   QUOTE(Camo @ Sep 11 2006, 09:26 PM) 4067 ...   Sep 11 2006, 08:30 PM
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|- - FeRgY   QUOTE(Camo @ Sep 11 2006, 09:50 PM) 4077 ...   Sep 11 2006, 09:34 PM
- - Requiem   No good games? LOL and you say Ferg is just coming...   Sep 11 2006, 09:27 PM
- - Camo   O, I can afford it. And I take that as a person fl...   Sep 11 2006, 09:38 PM
|- - FeRgY   QUOTE(Camo @ Sep 11 2006, 10:38 PM) 4084 ...   Sep 11 2006, 09:41 PM
||- - Shadow   ok who cares? old skool coming to new skool owns.   Sep 11 2006, 09:53 PM
|- - Requiem   QUOTE(Camo @ Sep 11 2006, 07:38 PM) 4084 ...   Sep 11 2006, 09:53 PM
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- - =BGOAT=Nicholas   Here you go Camo.   Sep 12 2006, 01:47 AM
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- - FeRgY   Why does size matter...? I think you should check...   Sep 12 2006, 03:38 PM
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- - Requiem   Camo you make the dumbest arguements. No shit DVD...   Sep 13 2006, 06:47 PM
- - Camo   Thats funny maybe those are personal faults. GC : ...   Sep 13 2006, 07:17 PM
- - Oompa   wii doesn't get thp8. =P =)   Sep 13 2006, 07:25 PM
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- - Camo   The one they released for ps2 blows ass.....   Sep 13 2006, 07:54 PM
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|- - FeRgY   QUOTE(=BGOAT=Nicholas @ Sep 13 2006, 11:2...   Sep 13 2006, 10:25 PM
- - Camo   Haha your funny. I dont have a gamecube. And as fo...   Sep 14 2006, 06:12 AM
|- - FeRgY   QUOTE(Camo @ Sep 14 2006, 07:12 AM) 4292 ...   Sep 14 2006, 03:32 PM
- - XolrecX   In regards to camo's uneducated guess on drive...   Sep 14 2006, 08:44 AM
- - jack0ff   PLAYSTATION 3 WILL RULE THE FUCKING WORLD. SRSLY   Sep 14 2006, 11:46 AM
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- - Camo   W/e like shadow said. SNES owns all. I know we can...   Sep 14 2006, 03:38 PM
- - ROOK Master wiz   I disagree. I never liked the SNES. infact I never...   Sep 14 2006, 03:41 PM
|- - lol_Doughnut   QUOTE(ROOK Master wiz @ Sep 14 2006, 02:4...   Sep 14 2006, 03:54 PM
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- - FeRgY   Who deleted Biz's post? lol   Sep 14 2006, 04:54 PM
- - Camo   Wiz go buy SNES or die.   Sep 14 2006, 05:01 PM
- - ROOK Master wiz   Actually I think I have one in storage that was le...   Sep 14 2006, 05:27 PM
- - XolrecX   Comment to wiz, when you said who needs that much ...   Sep 14 2006, 06:13 PM
- - Gamb   Wii! and Ps3 once I have some money. Although...   Sep 14 2006, 06:15 PM
- - Requiem   Something will be skrewy with it. We just gotta wa...   Sep 14 2006, 06:17 PM
- - ll BodyBag ll   Lol, I ain't bashing consoles anymore. But IMO...   Sep 17 2006, 09:21 PM
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- - Camo   Jack is back <3 Its like ductape on roids^^   Sep 19 2006, 08:32 PM
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- - Oompa   well of course the xbox 360 has better games than ...   Sep 19 2006, 08:37 PM
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