U.s. National Anthem, En Español??? wtf? Options

[Oompa]

Ya...I was just watching the news last night...and there was one segment about how some Mexican pop stars or something, redid the Star Spangled Banner in Spanish. It's kind of hard to remember exactly what was said...but ummm...I did a quick search and found some article about it. -link- ...ya...what do you guys think about this?

[Harold]

It's fine as long as they tweak it, or say, "Hispanics built this Country!"

[FeRgY]

I think its a disgrace. If foreigners are gonna come in to this country, they need to adapt to it, not us adapt to them. They should learn English once they enter. I think them singing it in Spanish is like redesigning the American flag, not right.

Sorry if I offend anyone on this but it's my opinions, it's my ideas. Respect me, I respect you. Its likely a flame war will happen.

[BGOAT Ken*Dawg]

I think its a disgrace. If Mexicans are gonna come in to this country, they need to adapt to it, not us adapt to them. They should learn English once they enter. I think them singing it in Spanish is like redesigning the American flag, not right.

Sorry if I offend anyone on this but it's my opinions, it's my ideas. Respect me, I respect you. Its likely a flame war will happen.

God Damn Beaners. LEARN ENGLISH!!!

[FeRgY]

God Damn Beaners. LEARN ENGLISH!!!

I don't think the profanity was neccessary but are you agreeing with me for once

[bleed]

Profanity is often used as an adjective and is sometimes the best way to get a point across.

[Harold]

Beaners

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[Requiem]

Hey atleast its not in french, you guys got nothing to complain about

[Ductape]

wow u guys are stupid n typical. this country was founded on tolerance and other nations this country is a melting pot of different cultures theres like only a few countrys where english is its native language... (we dont have a native language) because no one but the indians are native to this land(and some mexicans) ((california was mexican property until the white people came n took it) its fuckin sad how u dam crackers alwasy think ur better then other people . im happy that people are expressing there rights and did this.

[Harold]

wow u guys are stupid n typical. this country was founded on tolerance and other nations this country is a melting pot of different cultures theres like only a few countrys where english is its native language... (we dont have a native language) because no one but the indians are native to this land(and some mexicans) ((california was mexican property until the white people came n took it) its fuckin sad how u dam crackers alwasy think ur better then other people . im happy that people are expressing there rights and did this.

It's fine, as long as they don't tweak it.

[FeRgY]

wow u guys are stupid n typical. this country was founded on tolerance and other nations this country is a melting pot of different cultures theres like only a few countrys where english is its native language... (we dont have a native language) because no one but the indians are native to this land(and some mexicans) ((california was mexican property until the white people came n took it) its fuckin sad how u dam crackers alwasy think ur better then other people . im happy that people are expressing there rights and did this.

If that's also directed towards me, at least I didn't use racist comments. I know most Native Americans were really Mexican but w/e.

[=bgizzoat=ukjmn]

on ductapes argument of mexicans being native theres objective points id like to make (not taking any sides)

A) mexicans were numbers and numbers of idifferent tribes and colonies they were nto a unifide body.

even if they were they didnt speak spanish. they adapted to it.

C)in order to be a LEGAL immagrant u must atleast understand some english

D)language is the least of our concerns

E)whats with the racism on both sides? technically u could get banned for this as this is against forum rules. lets try and be constructive here and not be a bunch of whiney immature brats. be proud of you opinions but dont stoop to the level of degrading someone else for having a different view then your own

[Shadow]

Ya...I was just watching the news last night...and there was one segment about how some Mexican pop stars or something, redid the Star Spangled Banner in Spanish. It's kind of hard to remember exactly what was said...but ummm...I did a quick search and found some article about it. -link- ...ya...what do you guys think about this?

Man leave that shit spanish. Then the fucking white people can learn something else then english. I think its good for this country. It shows they got respect for other nation and imigrates. I hope it stays like that.

[Harold]

It just seems like it's retaliation for me. But, who cares... The National Anthem is the National Anthem.

[BGOAT wiz]

I say learn english or GTFO. Don't like what I have to say about immigrants and people of other races that come here then your prolly an immigrant your self GTFO. no seriously though the national anthem was made in english for americans and thats the way it should stay. The pledge of allegence was made by our founding fathers and was sang in schools and thats the way it should stay. don't want your kid to sing it then they shouldn't have to but don't make it so no one else can sing it either. Anyways I say if your going to come over here then you should learn english. Why should I as an english speaking american have to learn a FOREIGN language just to understand someone. I deal w/ people all the time that barely speak english. guess what speak english that I can understand or I can't help you get lost. and don't complain about the way we as americans do things especially if your from another country. you come over here from mexico or japan or were ever and then complain about the way we do things guess what. you don't like it seriously GTFO. I hate to sound like a prejudice bastard but I think we should close the damn borders and ship all these people back to were they came from. atleast then we as americans would have more jobs. 10 years ago I remember at my moms work and in this area if you saw someone black or mexican or indonesian or w/e you were like wtf. and at my moms job everyone was all american. now it's all indonesians. WTF?. I am not prejudice I just think that if your going to come over here and work and try to be american or w/e then be an american. speak english and adapt to us. not the other way around. that would be like me going to china and being like wtf no one speaks english. I am going to change china to speak english. it doesn't work that way. when in Rome do as the romans.

[FeRgY]

I think wiz covered my opinion.

[Harold]

http://bgoatclan.com/underground/index.php?showtopic=41

[BGOAT wiz]

ya and?... I read the hole thing. so what. now heres what you didn't talk about. those illegal immigrants come over here and take our jobs and make it harder for the people who are here legally to live. they come across the border poor and become rich and the more that come across and do that the more americans that our out of jobs and become poor.Guess what the ones that do it legally piss me off just as much. we as americans work our asses off and pay taxes. you know what those taxes do?. those taxes go to those immagrants. it's sad when some nobody can come to this country and has a welcome present we give them practically free room and bored and give them all types of other shit. we pay them to stay here. and the ones that don't work sit on there asses and collect welfare. again something us hard working americans pay for. I don't want to hear this sob story about some dude carrying a jug of water trying to look for a better life. there are millions of people here that are like that right now. I say we close the damned borders and help out the americans here that live on the streets and in alley ways before we let people from other countries come in and give them everything they want. I struggle to support my family and such and I work 6 days a week to do so and my wife works 5. yet some immigrant can come over here and in a week be driving a lexus? Does that sound right to you? I read that entire story and I understand you may have relatives there or w/e. good for you. but maybe you should put your energy into worrying about the people all ready here in the US that live in poverty before you worry about the people that will come here from other counrty's and live high on a hog. you think you know but you have no idea.

[Harold]

Dude, you can't just think for yourself, think about others. That was the main reason I wrote that. Not every immigrant gets a nice house and car as soon as they get here--they have to work for it, just like you.

[BGOAT wiz]

Oh I think about others. others that are all ready in this country and need help. and most immigrants receive a nice fat welcome to the US screw us in the ass and take our money/jobs check. trust me.

[Harold]

I think living in poverty for 20-30 years should make up for that wiz. I don't think you've truely lived in poverty, have you? Have you ever been to a truely poor neighborhood, where the roads aren't paved? Where there's nothing but old cars driving everywhere--people dying just because they can't get to a hospital fast enough. A place where people can barely afford gravestones? I don't know... I've been through that. I PERSONALLY don't live in poverty, but lot of my family in Mexico does. And we try to relieve that by sending some money over every once in a while.

[BGOAT wiz]

I never said I lived in pverty. what I am saying is that instead of worrying about other countries and people in other countries we should fix up our own country and worry about our own people first. thats this countries problem. we worry to much about other countries and not enuff on our own.

[Harold]

I didn't say you ever lived in poverty, I asked.

I agree on what you're saying wiz, and our country is doing just that--they're "taking care of business", and wiping out the illegals (which live our OWN COUNTRY). And plus, there really aren't "American people", we're all mixed. Freedom + mixed cultures makes the U.S. so great.

[bleed]

Thats not true, an American technically is someone who is born in the Contiguous(sp?) United States or the two outer-lying states. That or they become citizens. Illegal immigrants can take the time to get a green card and then become an American after living ten years as an "alien" (this might have changed but I am familiar with this being the rule). The illegal immigrants are really wasting our economys money because they are cheating the system and displaying a lack of respect towards the laws. So yes, Americans are very much a distinguishable class of people.

[Harold]

Thats not true, an American technically is someone who is born in the Contiguous(sp?) United States or the two outer-lying states. That or they become citizens. Illegal immigrants can take the time to get a green card and then become an American after living ten years as an "alien" (this might have changed but I am familiar with this being the rule). The illegal immigrants are really wasting our economys money because they are cheating the system and displaying a lack of respect towards the laws. So yes, Americans are very much a distinguishable class of people.

Yes, good point. I didn't mean wipe out illegals (sounds kind of weird), I meant to say weed them out.

[skrattahögtmunk]

I just think it's weird. 2 million people are waiting to get in legaly and now we are giving ALL these people a cut in line? :/ Now, i'm not/ever will be a racist, but damn, they should put some of that energy they use to make below min. wage to actually try to get in legally. And about poverty... The mexican Government should actually try to keep people in mexico/help their damn ecconomy, not just hope that everyone will be gone by 2015. A crime is a crime, and should be punished. No matter how you word it, they are still doing something illegal.


You don't hear about "a day without dopeheads" protest...

yay

[bleed]

I think its interesting that the mexicans have it in spanish. Now there are two versions that we don't know the words too!

[skrattahögtmunk]

I think its interesting that the mexicans have it in spanish. Now there are two versions that we don't know the words too!

lol, gj.

[Shadow]

I never said I lived in pverty. what I am saying is that instead of worrying about other countries and people in other countries we should fix up our own country and worry about our own people first. thats this countries problem. we worry to much about other countries and not enuff on our own.

Then wtf is our nation then if we dont think of others. Wtf are we goin to iraq for then. Wtf if u was them mexi's that have no family no food no money and want a chance in this fucking world. If your job gets takend is because they work harder and yet for lil money. Everyone deserves One chance to come to america a place where their is hispanics whites and blacks. This country wasnt english before all this shit started it was all American indians till this country stoled and made it english. I don't think they have to be forced to learn english. Well thats your opinion. I say Let them work for their troubles. They earn them jobs if they take it from others. They work 20times more then most americans. They work for a new life. And what fuckign mexican do you know where he has a cadilac. What I see from you wiz right now is a lil racist.

I just think it's weird. 2 million people are waiting to get in legaly and now we are giving ALL these people a cut in line? :/ Now, i'm not/ever will be a racist, but damn, they should put some of that energy they use to make below min. wage to actually try to get in legally. And about poverty... The mexican Government should actually try to keep people in mexico/help their damn ecconomy, not just hope that everyone will be gone by 2015. A crime is a crime, and should be punished. No matter how you word it, they are still doing something illegal.
You don't hear about "a day without dopeheads" protest...

yay

I agree with you but Like ductape says. One day we gonna keep goin around helping to much when Some country will take advantage and their will be worse things happening.

[bleed]

Look dude your morals are cool but it's an American law. And there's no bypassing the law regardless of your race or sob story. Other people follow the law and mexicans should be no exception. It's the LAW and if they don't like then they don't have to live here.

[Ductape]

i laugh because what job do immigrants that that u want..........??????

[Harold]

i laugh because what job do immigrants that that u want..........??????

Agreed. Immigrants are desperate for money. They'll do anything--even if that means hauling off trash every morning or doing manual labor.

[Oompa]

that amazing racist movie says it all...and if you dont know what im talking about...youve missed out on a laugh...

[Camo]

Yea one word. Gay. Why the hell do we have to change everything for not only mexicans, but every other friggen immigrant that comes into this country. I looked on the back of a crayone the other day and it said Orange
Spanish way to say orange
French way to say orange


I was like wtf is this bullshit. If they are gonna live here then they better friggen learn our language im sick of this shit already. If we goto their countries we don get special benifits where everything is in english.

[Jkidd]

Yea one word. Gay. Why the hell do we have to change everything for not only mexicans, but every other friggen immigrant that comes into this country. I looked on the back of a crayone the other day and it said Orange
Spanish way to say orange
French way to say orange


I was like wtf is this bullshit. If they are gonna live here then they better friggen learn our language im sick of this shit already. If we goto their countries we don get special benifits where everything is in english.

I agree with you Camo.

[BGOAT wiz]

exactly what I am saying.... We're complaing about the environment and shit but imagine how many trees we would save if we didn't have to print a damn instruction manual in 5 different languages. lmao. do you see street signs in different languages?. fuck no. if they can learn what street signs mean I am sure they can leanr the rest of the damn language. then again the asians around here can't fucking drive for shit so maybe they can't read. lmao. it's getting so bad that sometimes they have other lnaguages in the instruction manuals before english even. I was like wtf?. Maybe some of you will understand when your actually old enough to understand and see some of the shit that goes on. then again if your all ready an immigrant or something other then a caucasian then your blinded all ready. I always thought this nation was about voting and shit. yet one jewish asshole makes a stink about the national anthem or pledge of allegients in school and now it's not in schools anymore. I say funk that vote on it. that one jewish dick would be the only one on his side. lmao. the sad thing is we as white americans are no longer the majority. we're becoming the minority. the US was all purbread whites now we're all mongrolized. sounds prejudice I know but hey the truth is always harsh.

[Harold]

I think someone wants a superior race. *cough*

[Oompa]

then again the asians around here can't fucking drive for shit so maybe they can't read.

...0.o? wtf? ..lol...anyways...







i think someone said earlier that if we have to learn spanish before going to mexico, then the mexicans should learn to speak english before coming up here. wether or not someone else said it i totally agrre with that thought.

[BGOAT wiz]

I think someone wants a superior race. *cough*

I am the superior race. lmao. actually think about though really. if we all breed w/ each other and keep doing it and we all get our languages mixed up as well then eventuallt we will all be grey skinned jibberish speaking morons.

[Harold]

I am the superior race. lmao. actually think about though really. if we all breed w/ each other and keep doing it and we all get our languages mixed up as well then eventuallt we will all be grey skinned jibberish speaking morons.

I highly doubt you're the superior race in East Asia. And if if what you said would happen, we'd mostly likely be brownish with a universal language, that everyone would understand. People don't understand why the U.S. is so great--it's the diversity and freedom to show it, and you guys discourage it. That's sad.

[BGOAT wiz]

FREE?... whats so free about it. I work my ass off and yet the government gets like 1/3 of what I work for. thats not free is it. if it's so free why can't I go 120mph on the highway. why can't I go into a store and piss on the floor?. why can't I drive my car in the state of MASS w/ out my seatbelt. isn't it my own free right indanger my life if I want to. if it's so free why can't people smoke weed in the confort of there own homes? Why can't I go up to a police iofficer and tell him to go fuck himself? why do people have to be 21 before they can drink yet join the army at 18? if it's so free why can't my kids go to school and sing the pledge of allegiance? if it's so free why can't wal mart workers say merry christmas instead they have to say happy holidays. if it's so damn free than why can't I go and shot some of those illegal immigrants that come across the borders? or on the flip side why can't I help them get across the border? this country is far from being a free country. infact it's becoming the exact opposite. if it was a free country then one person wouldn't be able to dictate the outcome of wether or not the pledge of allegiance is allowe din school. if it's so free then why can't I own my own land. you may think your parents or w/e ever own there own land but guess what they don't. the government owns it. don't believe guess what if the state your living in wanted to puyt a highway where your house is they would offer to buy it from you at it's going rate. if you don'ty want to sell they can take your land from you. it's called eminant domain. if you think this country is free you are blinded. this country is all about commercialization. it's all about making money and big corporate businesses. Free is what this country was maybe 50 years ago. what this country needs is a civil war. the people against the government. it needs to go back to the old days. the oild days before any of us were even thought of being born.

[Oompa]

we can still say the pledge of allegiance up here... =/

[skrattahögtmunk]

FREE?... whats so free about it. I work my ass off and yet the government gets like 1/3 of what I work for. thats not free is it. if it's so free why can't I go 120mph on the highway. why can't I go into a store and piss on the floor?. why can't I drive my car in the state of MASS w/ out my seatbelt. isn't it my own free right indanger my life if I want to. if it's so free why can't people smoke weed in the confort of there own homes? Why can't I go up to a police iofficer and tell him to go fuck himself? why do people have to be 21 before they can drink yet join the army at 18? if it's so free why can't my kids go to school and sing the pledge of allegiance? if it's so free why can't wal mart workers say merry christmas instead they have to say happy holidays. if it's so damn free than why can't I go and shot some of those illegal immigrants that come across the borders? or on the flip side why can't I help them get across the border? this country is far from being a free country. infact it's becoming the exact opposite. if it was a free country then one person wouldn't be able to dictate the outcome of wether or not the pledge of allegiance is allowe din school. if it's so free then why can't I own my own land. you may think your parents or w/e ever own there own land but guess what they don't. the government owns it. don't believe guess what if the state your living in wanted to puyt a highway where your house is they would offer to buy it from you at it's going rate. if you don'ty want to sell they can take your land from you. it's called eminant domain. if you think this country is free you are blinded. this country is all about commercialization. it's all about making money and big corporate businesses. Free is what this country was maybe 50 years ago. what this country needs is a civil war. the people against the government. it needs to go back to the old days. the oild days before any of us were even thought of being born.

Think sombody is calling forums nerds to anarchy...

xD

[Harold]

FREE?... whats so free about it. I work my ass off and yet the government gets like 1/3 of what I work for. thats not free is it. if it's so free why can't I go 120mph on the highway. why can't I go into a store and piss on the floor?. why can't I drive my car in the state of MASS w/ out my seatbelt. isn't it my own free right indanger my life if I want to. if it's so free why can't people smoke weed in the confort of there own homes? Why can't I go up to a police iofficer and tell him to go fuck himself? why do people have to be 21 before they can drink yet join the army at 18? if it's so free why can't my kids go to school and sing the pledge of allegiance? if it's so free why can't wal mart workers say merry christmas instead they have to say happy holidays. if it's so damn free than why can't I go and shot some of those illegal immigrants that come across the borders? or on the flip side why can't I help them get across the border? this country is far from being a free country. infact it's becoming the exact opposite. if it was a free country then one person wouldn't be able to dictate the outcome of wether or not the pledge of allegiance is allowe din school. if it's so free then why can't I own my own land. you may think your parents or w/e ever own there own land but guess what they don't. the government owns it. don't believe guess what if the state your living in wanted to puyt a highway where your house is they would offer to buy it from you at it's going rate. if you don'ty want to sell they can take your land from you. it's called eminant domain. if you think this country is free you are blinded. this country is all about commercialization. it's all about making money and big corporate businesses. Free is what this country was maybe 50 years ago. what this country needs is a civil war. the people against the government. it needs to go back to the old days. the oild days before any of us were even thought of being born.

Go say that in China. The U.S. is as free as you're going to get on this planet.

[Oompa]

at least in america you can have as many kids as you want, but in some other coutries if you have too many kids they'll kill your kids and stuff...and yet those countries happen to be the most densely populated countires in the world...i think china is one of those ocuntires, not sure though...

[skrattahögtmunk]

at least in america you can have as many kids as you want, but in some other coutries if you have too many kids they'll kill your kids and stuff...and yet those countries happen to be the most densely populated countires in the world...i think china is one of those ocuntires, not sure though...

China is >>>>THE<<<< Most populated.dencely populated place in the world.

[BGOAT wiz]

and if we keep letting them into our country and other people into our country then guess what. we will be just as overpopulated.

[Jkidd]

Yeah but oompa. They are over populated and thats why they have a limit and other countries dont.

[BGOAT wiz]

Wait I know. lets send all of the homo's here over to china that way there will be less reproduction and we won't have to worry about trying to change jack and jill to jack and bill.

[Oompa]

ha...wiz thats funny...but ya, didn't they have the population rule before they got so populated...? i could be wrong though idk.

[Harold]

If we want it that way, let's send everyone back. If you're white, go back to Europe. Black, Africa. Islamic, Middle east. Hispanic, no one cares about them! Send them back to Mexico, regardless! Let all the Indians stay! NO. WIZZZZZ.

[Shadow]

Wait I know. lets send all of the homo's here over to china that way there will be less reproduction and we won't have to worry about trying to change jack and jill to jack and bill.

Wiz is their something fucked up with your head. We don't need them people to get oer populated. Give it time and we will have a bread in united states called Mexispiccrackerkoon And then our country will be over populated. But I say Make iraq a better place cause they have so much space. That we can fit united states X2

[BGOAT wiz]

word. we need to make iraq peacefull so we have plenty of oil and then do some shit in africa because theres a lot of shit going on there. but... well I dunno.

[Duffers]

I love Canada.

[Jkidd]

Agreed Duff...Agreed.

[etnies419]

Back to the original topic, I think any immigrant should learn English. Back in the late 1800's, early 1900's, we had lots of immirgants coming over. They worked in sweatshops, worked hard for their money, and learned English. Yet today, a lot of the immigrants want us to change our way of life because it's inconvenient for them. Well, isn't it inconvenient for me to go to McDonalds, ask for a cheeseburger with onions, ask 20 times until they say the order right, get the burger and find it's a double cheeseburger with barbeque sauce? Isn't it inconvenient for me to have to learn a second language just so I can understand what people are saying? Now, I am not trying to be racist, but I felt I needed to say this.

[skrattahögtmunk]

Back to the original topic, I think any immigrant should learn English. Back in the late 1800's, early 1900's, we had lots of immirgants coming over. They worked in sweatshops, worked hard for their money, and learned English. Yet today, a lot of the immigrants want us to change our way of life because it's inconvenient for them. Well, isn't it inconvenient for me to go to McDonalds, ask for a cheeseburger with onions, ask 20 times until they say the order right, get the burger and find it's a double cheeseburger with barbeque sauce? Isn't it inconvenient for me to have to learn a second language just so I can understand what people are saying? Now, I am not trying to be racist, but I felt I needed to say this.

Yeah!

>:O

[BGOAT wiz]

that shit happened to me and John when we were in connteicut. theres a mcdonalds off the highway we were on and we ordered food and john wanted like a cheeseburger but he wanted the big mac suace on it instead or someshit like that and every friggin person in there was asian or some shit. could braley speak english. anyways all of our orders were fubar. they couldn't comprehend a cheeseburger w/ mac sauce. pisses me off.

[Oompa]

asian or some shit

you compare asians w/ shit...? asian hating bastard...>=/.

If we want it that way, let's send everyone back. If you're white, go back to Europe. Black, Africa. Islamic, Middle east. Hispanic, no one cares about them! Send them back to Mexico, regardless! Let all the Indians stay! NO. WIZZZZZ.

last time i checked, it wasn't the whites, or the blacks, or the middle eastern ppl who were redoing our national anthem...

[Harold]

last time i checked, it wasn't the whites, or the blacks, or the middle eastern ppl who were redoing our national anthem...

and if we keep letting them into our country and other people into our country then guess what. we will be just as overpopulated.